In a dispatch here, with links back to several previous items, I quoted a reader who said that it was a fundamental conceptual error to compare a national push for clean energy with previous all-out efforts to go to the moon (Apollo Project) or build the atomic bomb (Manhattan Project). The technological challenges were different; the economic pressures and tradeoffs were different; the political realities were different -- and so on, to the extent that, according to several readers, we're better off not even mentioning the comparison.
A reader who blogs as Fabius Maximus writes now to somewhat different effect:
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Fabius Maximus adds:
Manhattan Project - Apollo Program - United States - Congressional Research Service - Peak oil
A reader who blogs as Fabius Maximus writes now to somewhat different effect:
Have you read the Congressional Research Service report "The Manhattan Project, the Apollo Program, and Federal Energy Technology R&D Programs: A Comparative Analysis", by Deborah D. Stine (30 June 2009)? Esp note the comparisons of their size (funding).Well, now I have! And I see, for instance, this chart, comparing spending patterns for each of the efforts. The red lines are "constant-dollar" (ie, fair) comparisons among the three, showing the wartime concentration on the Manhattan Project, the somewhat more-sustained and much more expensive investment in the Apollo Project, and the longer-run but lower lever of investment in energy programs, after the bulge of the Carter energy initiatives of the late 1970s:

A few other notes in reply to your article comparing the energy crisis to Sputnik.
(1) Your correspondent misses the key point in this comparison. There was no national consensus on the need for a space program before Sputnik. Peak oil will be a similarly transforming event, whenever it happens (expert forecasts are coming in, with several in the 2015-2020 range).
(2) Here's a comparison, based on the CRS funding data:
* The Manhattan Project was intense (in terms of GDP), small in dollars, and brief. It was an unqualified success
* The Apollo Program was intense, large in dollars, and long. Apollo met its narrow goal, but was a near-total failure in larger terms (producing no space infrastructure or long-term national benefits).
* Energy research (total since 1975) has been a low fraction of GDP per year, but massive in dollars and sustained for almost 2 generations. With few useful results relative to the cost.
We're one for three. Not a happy record. We'll have to do better in the future if we're to prosper -- or even survive.
(3) Manhattan and Apollo were narrowly focused engineering projects, for which the underlying science was already well-developed -- and the potential well-understood. With the possible exception of the Polywell, nothing else fits that description at this time.
I've written several articles about this emerging crisis.
1. Fusion energy, too risky a bet for America (we prefer to rely on war), 4 May 2008
2. An urban legend to comfort America: crash programs will solve Peak Oil, 16 September 2008
3. A long-shot project for fusion power: the Polywell, 30 September 2008
4. Could a new "Manhattan Project" produce radically new energy sources?, 29 June 2010
All worth reading.






